Play Stupid Games

In this BC breakdown of a situation from October 2017 in Escambia County, FL an individual was stopped when matching the description of someone that had threatened a bank teller. The individual was, in fact, armed.

Here we learn a couple of things:
1. Cops didn’t go LOOKING for trouble, but looking FOR the trouble.
2. The street isn’t the time to argue your case with officers, especially when firearms are involved.

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47 thoughts on “Play Stupid Games

  1. You have a high chance of not getting smoked like a pack of kools by LISTENING TO THE POLICE when they tell you something its easy actually, I've had plenty of encounters and not 1 bullet hole in me

  2. People don't respect the police anymore, no matter how good of a job a cop does. Society has turned into one that doesn't believe in accepting responsibility and personal accountability for their actions or the lack thereof. It's a finger pointing, blame the police society. Monday morning quarterbacks and people who want to critique and criticize police for a split second decision that a lot of people would freeze up or run away from. Attorneys, courts, haters and the media have weeks, months and sometimes years to pick apart those split second, life or death decisions.

  3. Why do these idiots think that these confrontation with police is just a level GTA? You have no less than three drawn weapons on you, what do you think is going to happen? That's not a gunfight it's target practice.

  4. I'm so sorry, I'm so sorry in advance. I'm not a police officer, but I just watched the slow-motion video from frame to frame and heard 26 shots fired at the subject. With all my respects to the police community, I understand that in the United States you have a different mentality and that the laws are different and that the subject never did what he was ordered to do. But 26! 26 !!! shots!!! It is simply for me to overstep the mark and instead of effectively reducing the subject it becomes an execution. So in my humble opinion this is a clear example of an execitive use of force.

  5. How I Think Uniformed Officers Are Trained

    I think I understand some of the principles uniformed officers are formally or informally trained to live by, but maybe I’m wrong. If you were trained as a uniformed police officer and I’m wrong, please correct me.

    Here are some of the principles I think uniformed officers are trained to follow.

    Take Charge: Exercise dominance over every person you deal with. You’re not there to debate with people or to beg them to cooperate with you. You’re there to respond to a potentially dangerous or criminal situation. In order to get the information and cooperation you need, let everyone know that you’re in charge and that they have to take orders from you.

    Punish Disobedience: If people know that there’s no downside to running from you then they’ll run all the time, but if they know that if they run that you’ll make them suffer for it, they’ll be far less likely to run in the first place.

    No Warning Shots: If you feel that you might have to shoot someone, you cannot fire a warning shot. Warning shots can ricochet and hit innocent people. A warning shot also might incite the suspect to charge at you. If you shoot, shoot to kill.

    Avoid Close Combat: If anyone defies your orders and brandishes anything that might possibly be used as a weapon do not approach the individual and physically engage him. You could be stabbed or injured and he might grab your gun. Instead stand back, and if he continues to defy your clear orders, shoot him. Your job is to act in the way that is safest for you. He has the option to obey your commands or not. If he refuses then his getting shot is on him.

    Shoot To Kill: If you shoot, do not aim for a shoulder or a leg. Aim for center mass. If you aim at a smaller target and miss, the subject might be able to close with you and stab you, assault you or take your gun before you get the chance to fire again.

    Keep On Shooting: If you shoot, keep shooting until the subject stops moving. If the subject is on PCP or some other drug it might take several shots to bring him down. If you shoot only once he might be able to close with you and stab you, assault you or take your gun before you can fire again

    Essentially, these rules boil down to this instruction:

    If someone appears to possibly be a threat and he defies your orders, it’s OK to kill him.

    I’m sure that uniformed officers think these rules are proper, that if people simply followed orders they wouldn’t get killed. If they don’t, then getting killed is the price they pay for disobeying the police.

    These Rules Are Inappropriate For Policing A Civilian Population

    The thing is, these are the kinds of rules that might be appropriate for an occupying army trying to police an enemy population in time of war. These are the types of rules that under rare circumstances might be appropriate when dealing with the one-quarter of one percent of the population that are violent, crazed, gun-carrying felons.

    They aren’t the kinds of rules that are appropriate for dealing with the remaining 99.75% of the population.

    The 99.75% of the population that are not armed, violent felons expect the police to help them, not dominate them. They expect the police to protect them, not shoot them. They expect the police to demonstrate reasonable conduct suitable for dealing with a civilian population in suburban Oklahoma, not practice a “Do-what-I say-or-Ill-kill-you” form of conduct that would be more appropriate for marines operating in the tribal areas of Afghanistan.

    Unacceptable Police Training

    As civilians, as citizens, we should find it unacceptable that:

    A police officer who is supposed to protect us is told that if he kills a person whom he thinks has a gun he’ll be commended but if instead of killing him he fires a warning shot that he’ll be punished or fired;

    A police officer who is supposed to protect us is trained that when he shoots that he should not aim at a thigh or a shoulder but rather that he should aim for the chest, essentially that he should shoot to kill;

    A police officer who is supposed to protect the citizens is trained not to fire just once, but rather to shoot again and again and again until his target is on the ground and no longer moving.

    A police officer who is supposed to be protecting us is trained to shoot to kill possibly unarmed citizens who do not follow his instructions.

    The Balance Between Officer Safety And Killing The People You’re Supposed To Protect

    Yes, it’s probably safer for the police to stand back ten feet and put 19 bullets into a man who refuses their orders to drop a six-inch knife like the San Francisco PD did a few months ago instead of moving in and knocking the knife away with their batons.

    Yes, it’s probably safer for an officer to kill man who reaches for his wallet than to step away from the car and hold his fire.

    Yes, it’s probably safer for an officer to put four bullets into the chest of a man holding something that might be a gun but wasn’t, instead of shooting him only once.

    Yes, it’s probably safer for an officer to kill a thirteen-year-old boy holding a toy gun than to fire a bullet into the dirt in front of the kid to shock him into dropping the apparent gun.

    But from the point of view of the citizens whom the police are supposed to be protecting, not killing, those are not good enough reasons for their fatal conduct.

    Those are risks you’re expected to take when you sign up for the job.

    What The Rules Should Be

    I think that the citizens who are supposedly being protected by the police they hire and pay for expect the rules to be:

    These are your fellow citizens. In the long run, acting like members of an invading army occupying hostile territory makes your job harder, not easier. Civilian police need the respect and cooperation of the people they’re supposed to protect, so members of the public should be treated with respect unless and until they prove they don’t deserve it.

    Your job is to catch criminals not punish them. If people run, let the D.A. add a resisting arrest charge and ask the judge to give him an extra couple of months in lock-up. When you beat people who run from you or disrespect you, you just become a thug with a badge.

    If someone appears to have a firearm, a sword, an ax or other long weapon and your Taser has been ineffective then, as a last resort, fire a warning shot before shooting them.

    If someone defies your orders and brandishes something small (not a firearm) that might be used as a weapon, a knife, a wrench, or the like, use your baton. Do not shoot him.

    If you must shoot, aim for a shoulder or a leg.

    If you shoot, unless the person is charging or still aiming a firearm at you, stop shooting after the first shot.

    How Should The Job Be Done?

    I suspect uniformed officers will hate these kinds of rules, but if their idea of being a cop is that they should be able to stand back ten feet and put five slugs into someone who might be unarmed because he’s not obeying their orders then I think they’ve got the wrong idea of what the job is and how it should be done, and that they shouldn’t be a cop anymore than I should.

    Fix The Problem At Its Source — Change Police Officer Training

    If we want to stop uniformed police officers from killing citizens we have to start at the source. We have to change the uniformed officers’ training and the rules they live by.

    Riots, demonstrations, protests, prosecutions, even jail time will not stop the police from killing unarmed people so long as the cops are told that if someone who might or might not be armed disobeys their orders that they’re fully entitled to shoot to kill.

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