Per police policy this is OK. What do you think? I don’t think it should be.

July 4th 2020 – Most police policy do read that a male officer can pat down a female officer when a female officer is not available. Generally every department has 1 or two on shift. We would call a neighboring city if no females were available on our shift.

The motion he is using is as training dictates the back of the hand. It feels violating being searched man to man so this method of back of hand feels even worse since it’s tougher and mechanics.

Typically you’d tell the what you were doing if you had to pat a female down as a male.

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Author: rafael.nieves


35 thoughts on “Per police policy this is OK. What do you think? I don’t think it should be.

  1. Those who are capable of tyranny are capable of perjury to sustain it .”

    “… only those who have the will and the power to shoot down their fellow men, are the real rulers in this, as in all other (so-called) civilized countries; for by no others will civilized men be robbed, or enslaved .”
    ― Lysander Spooner, No Treason: The Constitution of No Authority

    "So these villains, who call themselves governments, well understand that their power rests primarily upon stolen money . With money they can hire soldiers, and with soldiers extort money . And, when their authority is denied, the first use they always make of money, is to hire soldiers to kill or subdue all who refuse them more money ."

    -The payment of taxes, being compulsory, of course furnishes no evidence that any one voluntarily supports the Constitution .

    It is true that the theory of our Constitution is, that all taxes are paid voluntarily; that our government is a mutual insurance company, voluntarily entered into by the people with each other; that each man makes a free and purely voluntary contract with all others who are parties to the Constitution, to pay so much money for so much protection, the same as he does with any other insurance company; and that he is just as free not to be protected, and not to pay any tax, as he is to pay a tax, and be protected .

    But this theory of our government is wholly different from the practical fact . The fact is that the government, like a highwayman, says to a man: Your money, or your life . And many, if not most, taxes are paid under the compulsion of that threat ;.

    The government does not, indeed, waylay a man in a lonely place, spring upon him from the road side, and, holding a pistol to his head, proceed to rifle his pockets . But the robbery is none the less a robbery on that account; and it is far more dastardly and shameful .

    The highwayman takes solely upon himself the responsibility, danger, and crime of his own act . He does not pretend that he has any rightful claim to your money, or that he intends to use it for your own benefit . He does not pretend to be anything but a robber . He has not acquired impudence enough to profess to be merely a “protector,” and that he takes men’s money against their will, merely to enable him to “protect” those infatuated travellers, who feel perfectly able to protect themselves, or do not appreciate his peculiar system of protection . He is too sensible a man to make such professions as these . Furthermore, having taken your money, he leaves you, as you wish him to do . He does not persist in following you on the road, against your will; assuming to be your rightful “sovereign,” on account of the “protection” he affords you . He does not keep “protecting” you, by commanding you to bow down and serve him; by requiring you to do this, and forbidding you to do that; by robbing you of more money as often as he finds it for his interest or pleasure to do so; and by branding you as a rebel, a traitor, and an enemy to your country, and shooting you down without mercy, if you dispute his authority, or resist his demands . He is too much of a gentleman to be guilty of such impostures, and insults, and villanies as these . In short, he does not, in addition to robbing you, attempt to make you either his dupe or his slave .

    The proceedings of those robbers and murderers, who call themselves “the government,” are directly the opposite of these of the single highwayman .

    In the first place, they do not, like him, make themselves individually known; or, consequently, take upon themselves personally the responsibility of their acts . On the contrary, they secretly (by secret ballot) designate some one of their number to commit the robbery in their behalf, while they keep themselves practically concealed . They say to the person thus designated:

    Go to A— B—, and say to him that “the government” has need of money to meet the expenses of protecting him and his property . If he presumes to say that he has never contracted with us to protect him, and that he wants none of our protection, say to him that that is our business, and not his; that we choose to protect him, whether he desires us to do so or not; and that we demand pay, too, for protecting him . If he dares to inquire who the individuals are, who have thus taken upon themselves the title of “the government,” and who assume to protect him, and demand payment of him, without his having ever made any contract with them, say to him that that, too, is our business, and not his; that we do not choose to make ourselves individually known to him; that we have secretly (by secret ballot) appointed you our agent to give him notice of our demands, and, if he complies with them, to give him, in our name, a receipt that will protect him against any similar demand for the present year . If he refuses to comply, seize and sell enough of his property to pay not only our demands, but all your own expenses and trouble beside .

    If he resists the seizure of his property, call upon the bystanders to help you (doubtless some of them will prove to be members of our band) . If, in defending his property, he should kill any of our band who are assisting you, capture him at all hazards; charge him (in one of our courts) with murder, convict him, and hang him . If he should call upon his neighbors, or any others who, like him, may be disposed to resist our demands, and they should come in large numbers to his assistance, cry out that they are all rebels and traitors; that “our country” is in danger; call upon the commander of our hired murderers; tell him to quell the rebellion and “save the country,” cost what it may . Tell him to kill all who resist, though they should be hundreds of thousands; and thus strike terror into all others similarly disposed . See that the work of murder is thoroughly done, that we may have no further trouble of this kind hereafter . When these traitors shall have thus been taught our strength and our determination, they will be good loyal citizens for many years, and pay their taxes without a why or a wherefore .

    It is under such compulsion as this that taxes, so called, are paid . And how much proof the payment of taxes affords, that the people consent to support “the government,” it needs no further argument to show .

    Lysander Spooner (1870)

  2. like all police tactics they copied that from the military its sometimes necessary to check a female prisoner of war prior to a female being available. only men could be infantry when i was serving so yea.. but cops still suck

  3. Well, I think that anyone who thinks realizes that they are voting for the wrong people, and who don't think. They place people in the back of squad cars with their hands cuffed behind their backs; without searching them. Male officers SHOULD by Policy of a reasonable supervisory policy maker so place female suspects or those arrested without search until a female officer does it. Even transporting those arrested to processing for search. The policy maker authorizing males to feel-up the breasts, or other body parts, of females for weapons is some kind of stupid, sick pervert and shouldn't be anywhere near government; much less the police force!!!

  4. Just looks wrong. I almost said it should be done in private for the lady's sake but that would be worse actually.

    It seems like they could just take her to the jail and let a female do the searching. Maybe have an officer keep an eye on her until you get to properly search her in case she's hiding something in there.

    I can't imagine she's being arrested for something serious. I would imagine a citation and letting her go would be better optics. But I don't know the details.

  5. For those wanting this type of search banned: See you can't just not allow under the breast searches.. if those type of searches were banned guess where people would hide illegal items knowing they'd get away with it because that type of search is off limits. Also, because pea brained americans fight for this right.. stop assuming the cops gender xD and if he truly is a male stop assuming he's straight.

  6. In my 74 years I've neither seen nor known a more intransigent,pedantry,bigoted,and socially isolated group of individuals than cops who dwell in a dark,exclusive world;a closed society,which shuns the light of public scrutiny because of their miscreant deeds and cops have yet to perceive that when they treat citizens as enemies,they ensure it will be so.Cops are incarcerated by their own mindset—which more often than not—includes civil,human,and constitutional rights violations.American policing and their carte blanche supporters had better take a fierce moral inventory because by their very silence they imply agreement with the police status quo.By their own hand and deeds,policing has forfeited all its legitimacy—therefore it is unsustainable.

  7. This was a disgusting display of abuse of authority by the helmeted police officer. What police department was involved? I would very much like to communicate my opinion of the officer's action to his superiors.

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